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Frizzling Religious Philosophy
« on: July 13, 2014, 11:11:27 pm »
Frizzling Religious Philosophy
Here we try to bring together science and religion in a "Frizzling Religious Philosophy" that many have a hart time to imagine, but often can notget disprove and tries to not contradict religion or science.
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Re: Frizzling Religious Philosophy
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2014, 11:13:54 pm »
Who could be God and his morals.
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Just an idea that fizzles me but what if?
What if I told you that the omniscience of God is all the knowledge of the universe put together as the universe is like a brain and god is the multidimensional universe itself whom we people try to picture as a man in the sky? Just because we don't understand other immortal intelligent life forms then the mortal animal life form we live in.
What if our galaxy in this universe in this dimension is the brain synapse of that brain and then imagine how small we are?
What if our entire live is a Matrix and when we die we actually wake up?
Can your brain cell know how you look? Of course not, so how do you expect us humans to know how god looks?
And when we compare God to human morals we tent to think god as a human. But nowhere does it say God is human so why do we humanize him? We even call him "him" instead of "it" though he has no sex and can not be a "him".
How can we compare our compassion to each and say that god is evil as some do? Is a programmer who makes a computer game inhuman if he lets people in that game kill each other? So you are evil when you play Doom or Counter Strike?
Because that is exactly what we are for God. We are the software game he programmed and there for he does not care unless the entire game crashes then he cares cause he does not want us to crash.
The only day we will know for sure is the day we wake up of this matrix and that could be the day we die.
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If we think about it nothing in any religion contradicts what I just said. in fact if we look in the Christian Bible or in the Muslim Koran it agrees ton what I just said. Even science can't disprove what I just said. And physiologically I am also right of why a god can not care of us more then what you care of your computer game and its characters and why we are free to chose, but not to free because we can't bend the rules of physics. But God can because the rules of physics I just the rules of this computer Matrix game God made.
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What if I am right? Can anybody disprove me without just saying "your wrong"? Because honestly any idiot can say your wrong, but it takes brains to prove that somebody is wrong if he is.
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It is said we are made in the image of God
And are we not at atom size in the image of the universe? Think if the idea of making Adam in his image does not mean the person Adam, but it means the atom that made the first human.
Yes we are all made in the image of God, because in atom size we all look the same at the image of the universe.
God = the multidimensional universe.
Remember that the old testament were the story or Adam comes from is NOT written "literal" but it is written "metaphorical". There for it is wrong if we take it "literal". We must try to understand the "metaphor" behind it.
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Remember that each passage of each religion not only Christianity is made to be understood by the people of the time it was written and not by us. No wonders it is not written in "literal" text as we understand it today.
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What is the Adam, Eve and the Apple and the Snake and the worlds of the snake?
Lets think a bit of the Adam and eave story. What if that is a metaphorical story of evolution? What if the apple in the story are the bolls of a man. the snake the ****. Meaning that before Adam and Eve we weer like snails impregnating ourselves and we weer not two sexes, but one. The sin is that of that we made us into becoming two sexes and needing a partner to multiply and keep evolution rolling.
Cause since we got used to have sex with each other we made evolution to chose two sexes thus "male and female". Before that we were one sex that was both male and female at the same time.
The apple is the bolls weer the sperms are and the snake is the ****. The talking of the snake is the feeling men get when not being able to keep there **** in there pats and the female is to blame because maybe it was the females idea to become a female and use the now made man as a man.
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And there you have a more realistic theory of the Adam and Eva metaphor. Yet remember one thing that the female and male were not humans cause as I said "Adan was made in the image of God at atom level" and that means that the sex changing living creatures were not humans, but they were bacteria like creatures that later through evolution became humans. And there sin is that they made there evolution to need a sexual partner to survive through there new discovered sexual lust.
Thus is why sexual lust is a sin, but not wrong to have.
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This theory can be stretched to all the bibles idea, the only problem is that is I will cover the entire bible I will have to write a book that is at least 4 times bigger then the bible. And the funny part it is that it would not contradict any religion and not even science in any way since nobody can disprove it in any way or form to the opposite it can be proven since even in science we know that at the beginning all bacteria on earth was not made as female and male and that thus came later in evolution.
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Re: Frizzling Religious Philosophy
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2014, 11:09:51 pm »
How old is the Orthodox faith?
Orthodox are the FIRST Christian on the planet NOT the Catholic.

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If you are a Lutheran, your religion was founded by Martin Luther, an ex-monk of the Catholic Church, in the year 1517.
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If you belong to the Church of England, your religion was founded by King Henry VIII in the year 1534 because the Pope would not grant him a divorce with the right to re-marry.
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If you are a Presbyterian, your religion was founded by John Knox in Scotland in the year 1560.
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If you are a Congregationalist, your religion was originated by Robert Brown in Holland in 1582.
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If you are Protestant Episcopalian, your religion was an offshoot of the Church of England, founded by Samuel Senbury in the American colonies in the 17th century.
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If you are a Baptist, you owe the tenets of your religion to John Smyth, who launched it in Amsterdam in 1606.
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If you are of the Dutch Reformed Church, you recognize Michelis Jones as founder because he originated your religion in New York in 1628.
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If you are a Methodist, your religion was founded by John and Charles Wesley in England in 1774.
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If you are a Mormon (Latter Day Saints), Joseph Smith started your religion in Palmyra, New York, in 1829.
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If you worship with the Salvation Army, your sect began with William Booth in London in 1865.
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If you are Christian Scientist, you look to 1879 as the year in which your religion was born and to Mary Baker Eddy as its founder.
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If you belong to one of the religious organizations known as "Church of the Nazarene, Pentecostal Gospel," "Holiness Church," or "Jehovah's Witnesses," your religion is one of the hundreds of new sects founded by men within the past hundred years.
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If you are Roman Catholic, your church shared the same rich apostolic and doctrinal heritage as the Orthodox Church for the first thousand years of its history, since during the first millennium they were one and the same Church. Lamentably, in 1054, the Pope of Rome broke away from the other four Apostolic Patriarchates (which include Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch and Jerusalem), by tampering with the Original Creed of the Church, and considering himself to be infallible. Thus your church is 1,000 years old.
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If you are Orthodox Christian, your religion was founded in the year 33 by Jesus Christ, the Son of God. It has not changed since that time. Our church is now almost 2,000 years old. And it is for this reason, that Orthodoxy, the Church of the Apostles and the Fathers is considered the true "one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church." This is the greatest legacy that we can pass on to the young people of the new millennium.
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MY QUESTION:
For you who condemn Christianity on the basis of what the Catholic church have done in the dark ages I ask of you:
"What mass evils have the Orthodox church who is the first what mass evils have the Orthodox church done in the name of God using religion for you to have the right to judge the Orthodox as well?".
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Atheist motives: "The Orthodox teachings are as corrupt as Catholic."
LOGIC: If the teachings are as corrupt should it not give the SAME outcome? Why does it not?
Or maybe Atheists understand the teachings to be the same but the truth is that they are not since the same book or text can be understood in different ways?
If that is the case then what we should watch out for is who gives the teachings form the book and not the book.
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http://www.orthodoxphotos.com/history.shtml
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Re: Frizzling Religious Philosophy
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2014, 11:25:29 pm »
This priest monk tells the truth about them who do bad things in the name of the bible EXPOSING the Vatican Catholic church.
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MY COMMENT and QUESTION:
"Independent" is important because they are them who are with the Vatican. The "Independent" Byzantine Christian Orthodoxy also has no blood on there hands though we hm... they use the bible as well exactly like the Catholics but how come they NEVER did any bad things as the Catholics have done. How come? I mean if the bible made the Catholics do evils should not also the Orthodoxy have done evils in the name of God using the bible?
Does this not prove what I said of the bible that it is them who used it wrong that did evils in its name and it is not the bible itself that makes people do evils?
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Re: Frizzling Religious Philosophy
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2014, 12:03:30 am »
PROOF that the Orthodox was the first Christians not Catholics.
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FACTS:
- That the Romans killed Christians before they became Christians and that the Armenian Orthodoxy is older then the Catholic Church.
- Catholicism was founded by Peter wile Orthodox was founded by Jesus. yet not the Orthodox church though the church was founded before the Roman Catholic was.
- Orthodoxy can survive without a church but the Catholicism can not. Orthodoxy has survived 3 times without a church. 1 in the Roman time, 2 after the fall of the Byzantine and 3 in the communist time were churches were forbidden and all Orthodox was under the communist.
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If you are Roman Catholic, your church shared the same rich apostolic and doctrinal heritage as the Orthodox Church for the first thousand years of its history, since during the first millennium they were one and the same Church. Lamentably, in 1054, the Pope of Rome broke away from the other four Apostolic Patriarchates (which include Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch and Jerusalem), by tampering with the Original Creed of the Church, and considering himself to be infallible. Thus your church is 1,000 years old.
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If you are Orthodox Christian, your religion was founded in the year 33 by Jesus Christ, the Son of God. It has not changed since that time. Our church is now almost 2,000 years old. And it is for this reason, that Orthodoxy, the Church of the Apostles and the Fathers is considered the true "one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church." This is the greatest legacy that we can pass on to the young people of the new millennium.
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Re: Frizzling Religious Philosophy
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2014, 12:53:55 pm »
The TRUTH behind brainwashed people.
When you truly realize this with your heart, soul and mind then you are on a good way of waking up out of it and see how many do not see reality.
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In the majority of people BOTH religious and atheists people are more or less brainwashed. I am Byzantine Orthodox Christian in my own way and I also believe in Science and Logic and I see the brainwashing in people every day in both religious and atheists alike. The way the human mind works is not different if you are a Theist or a Atheist. The human mind may have different ideas and different perspectives of the world, but the way it works to have those perspectives and ideas is the SAME.
I see both in Atheists and Theist alike a trust in authority though that authority differs of who it is. In those who are extreme you can see the likeliness of them though they would hate you to death if you tried to show that they were alike.
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EXAMPLE:
1a- Extreme religious people have trust in what there living religious humans tell them and that itself makes me wonder if they even know what God is? Its more likely they think they know what God is out of what they are brainwashed to think by there religious leaders. Making them believe in ANY bullsh¡t they are told by there religious leaders and there for making the leaders a God for them and not the God they say they cherish.
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2- Extreme Atheists think that religion is all bad and that science is always the answer. But in there naivety since they trust science that much they often believe ANY bullsh¡t the media tells them as long as it is explained in scientific ways. And by doing so those Atheists make the media and the system they live in there leaders and a equally brainwashed slaves as the people they hate in religion. just not brainwashed by religion but brainwashed by the system instead.
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3- Religious people who are also in the middle of being Atheists like Deists and so on... Some of them trust both ways the church and the system and science in media and and not at the same time. These often think they are free from brainwashing, but what happens is tat often just chose to jump between being brainwashed by fake religious interests and laying scientific media. Ending up with just jumping from one brainwash to another and back again and so on in a never ending circle.
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In the end the result is that people have to "WAKE UP" and realize that it is not believes who destroy us but what destroys is our mental state, the way we let ourselves be lead by asshóles who brainwash us for personal greedy gain.
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PERSONALLY:
Now you may wonder as long as I know and I am aware of all this why have I chose to believe in a God and be Byzantine Orthodox Christian? The answer for me is from my personal experience.
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So how does one explain all this in a simple term? I guess there is no way of explaining to them who have no learned it through life except "live, do research, and read everything and trust nobody human" and in religion NEVER trust to 100% human religious leaders.
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Yet why I believe in God and Jesus at all is a persona question that can only be answered by my experience in life who I can not tell cause that would mean writing a book online.
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NOTE: CAPS LOCK I used instead of fat or underlined text, I am NOT screaming.
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Re: Frizzling Religious Philosophy
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2014, 01:04:31 pm »
Gods judgment
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God judges you for your wrong doing and not for there wrong doings. You will not be punished through karma or after death on the basis of what others do around you, but only on the basis of what you did to others. Any punishment from others comes from humans and never from God. God only judges what you do and often you are the one punishing yourself and by doing so you get punished by God without you being conscious of it and if you realize it you accept it and if you don't realize it you will start hating God for the wrongs you drove upon yourself.
Example: If you kill and get away from the law but end up handicapped from a accident you can ether blame your own doings or you could be ignorant it and blame God for the accident and ignoring what you did before.
Karma exists but it is part of Gods plan to make people realize there wrongs before they death when there will be no turning back.
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Re: Frizzling Religious Philosophy
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2015, 10:17:42 pm »
I am Christian Orthodox, but I was asked on YouTube to explain God, Satan, Sin, Hell and Fate to a Atheist in a logical, rational way without using religion as my point. So this is how I explained it to him. I hope he understood it well.
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What is FATE
You see fate is like climbing a tree.
The tree is there and you can never change it. But you can chose what branch to climb (fate) or if you want to cut it off (do suicide). Some of us climb a sick branch and die young in some health problem. Others are born in a sick tree that will sooner or later fall (he/she dies) together with him. Those who reach the top of the tree, try to climb back down, but in fate you can not go back down in time. So you can never climb back down the tree. There for you end up suspended till the branch breaks and you die of old age.
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God made that tree of fate. You can chose your fate, but you can never make the tree grow new branches as in fate, you can never make a fate that does not already exist to be chosen in the first place.
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FATE and a real TREE
What differs the tree of fate from a real tree is that in the tree of fate the branches can connect with each other on the path to the top, so that sometimes they reach at the same place though you took different paths in life. And the tree of fate can also as it does for many connect with other trees so that they find a partner for life.
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Fate is in our genetic linked code to the universe and the universe is God. But I will come to explaining that later.
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GOD and FATE
God give us fate for each person it is different, but he did not say what path we should take in it. We pray to God so that God enlightens our mind so we chose the right path. But it is NEVER God who chooses for us and it is ALWAYS we who chose our fate in life. ALL humans are born free even free from God, though freedom from God comes at a price. And that price is lack of Godly enlightens that leads to easier deceive by Satan. But Satan only means "the enemy" and NOT a demonic monster as Hollywood and the Catholic church depicts him.
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Who is SATAN and who is GOD
Satan is in fact beautiful, though he chooses out of hate to look bad for us. Now what is Satan? And what is God? Satan is our ego and greed. Yes Satan is part of us. God is the universe and also part of us since we all are part of the universe and part of our own ego and greed. Satan is not all knowing since we are not all knowing. But Satans knowledge spans thousands of years since our memory in our genetic code spans thousands of years.
God is all knowing cause the universe has all the knowledge in it and there for the universe all together can never be less the all knowing since nobody in the universe can know more then the universe all together knows.
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MAN and GOD and SATAN
The greed man has and his ego is "the enemy" that is Satan. Because it is the ego and greed who makes us so selfish that we destroy others peoples lives for our own including the power hunger the   a s s h o l e s   in power have to enslave the people using anything including religion as a tool for evils out of greed and ego.
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What is SIN, HELL, HEAVEN, EVOLUTION and the SOUL
Sin is what will eventually destroy our evolution even if it does not do it right now and even if it does not do it on a mass scale. Example: God dislikes gays but why? Answer is that homosexual people can not have children in a natural way unless they are bisexual. Evolution is made to grow in a natural way and we are not snails to impregnate ourselves. Evolution is the tool f God (the universe). With no evolution, there would be no universe.
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Hell is what we make. Look around us plz? All we do in life is recorded in our genetics and if we are bad people then our geens will act accordingly after we die. That is how we will be punished since if our geens act good after we die then what is left of us may also have a second chance in this universe, but if it acts bad then the second chance will be very painful in other words "a hell".
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Heaven is exactly the opposite. It is when our geens act accordingly to our actions the same way as in hell but for the good things in our life instead of bad. Making eternity a very beautiful place for our geens to exist.
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The soul is the geens left from us. It contains records of us and our past. And from those records it creates a eternity of hell or heaven and yes God is the judge and the jury since  God is the universe and it is in this universe our genetics will for eternity exist and it is the laws of physics that this universe (God) made that will decide the destinations of our genetics.
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Re: Frizzling Religious Philosophy
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2015, 03:38:37 am »
This is why Theist and Atheist debates go nowhere.
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Many people do a HUGE mistake and change the entire meaning of a book or a text wen they are reading a book or  a text and this is the mistake.
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I have seen many that cut what you like and keep out what you don't,. But by doing so you are changing the entire meaning if the context. EXAMPLE:
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The entire context from Bill Gates
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“But the mystery and the beauty of the world is overwhelmingly amazing, and there's no scientific explanation of how it came about. To say that it was generated by random numbers, that does seem, you know, sort of an uncharitable view [laughs]. I think it makes sense to believe in God, but exactly what decision in your life you make differently because of it, I don't know”
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EXAMPLE:
But as you can see I can change the meaning of it, if I cut out what I want to make it sound as I want it. Look quotes from the same context:
-- Sounds Atheist = "there's no scientific explanation of how it came about"
-- Sounds Deist = "the mystery and the beauty of the world is overwhelmingly amazing"
-- Sounds Theist = "I think it makes sense to believe in God"
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Each one of them quotes if you read separately without the entire context you get a different meaning then what it actually says.
To cut and paste what you like and leave behind what you don't like NEVER says the truth, but will ALWAYS say what you want to hear it say.
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I ask you:
- How can you say you understand a text if you pick what you like and leave what you don't like?
- How can you say you understand a text if you do not take in count the entire story but only parts of it?
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CONCLUSION and TRUTH:
You who do not take in count the entire story of a book or text have no right to judge a book or text since you are ignorant to what it actually says. Because how can you judge correctly what you do not understand cause you stay ignorant to the entire picture and chose to see what you want to see?
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Re: Frizzling Religious Philosophy
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2015, 12:43:31 am »
I am not afraid of God
If I go to Hell then be it, because if I do so then I deserve to do so, and if I go to heaven then be it. I have faith that God does not judge unjust.
If I sin or not I am perfectly responsible to take my responsibilities and they who are afraid of sinning are NOT mature enough to be responsible of there own actions.
I am not afraid of Gods judgment because I know I am acting trying to do good, I am afraid of mans unjust judgment because mans greed is limitless.
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